Breathwork Magic
Welcome to Breathwork Magic, a podcast dedicated to exploring the life-changing power of Breathwork. Discover how conscious breathing can unlock inner peace, resilience, and clarity as we dive into inspiring stories and practical insights. Whether you’re new to Breathwork or looking to deepen your practice, each episode offers wisdom to help you connect more fully with yourself and the world around you.
Breathwork Magic
From Special Forces to Serenity: Tim Thomas on the Power of Breath
Could the key to unlocking focus, clarity, and emotional resilience lie in something as simple as breath?
This episode features Tim Thomas, founder of Breathwork in Bed and a former member of the Australian Special Forces, who shares his journey of discovering the transformative power of conscious breathing. Tim explains how mastering Breathwork improved his sleep, energy levels, and overall well-being, offering profound insights into the connection between rest and the ability to serve others effectively.
The discussion delves into the science and practice of breathwork, highlighting its role in personal development, work performance, and athletic achievement. Tim describes how conscious breathing can function as a personal toolkit, enabling individuals to heal trauma, gain clarity, and find balance without reliance on external solutions. The conversation also explores the importance of connection and community, especially for veterans, as a path to healing and transformation. Practical techniques for incorporating breathwork into daily routines are shared, making this episode both inspiring and actionable.
Key Points:
- [2:15] - Tim’s transition from the Australian Special Forces to breathwork advocacy.
- [6:32] - Exploring the link between quality rest and effective service to others.
- [10:45] - How conscious breathing enhances sleep, focus, and athletic performance.
- [15:20] - Using breathwork as a tool for trauma healing and emotional release.
- [20:05] - The role of connection and community in veteran support and suicide prevention.
- [25:30] - Practical strategies for integrating breathwork into everyday life.
- [30:15] - An invitation to explore the benefits of mindful breathing through structured practices.
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Every breath is an opportunity for growth and connection.
Welcome to Breathwork Magic, the podcast that explores the life-changing power of your breath. Breathwork isn't just a practice. It's a gateway to healing, transformation and shifting to a new mindset, by letting go of the past and embracing the possibilities of the present moment. And embracing the possibilities of the present moment. I'm Amanda Russo, your host, a certified breathwork facilitator, level two Reiki practitioner and creator of the Mando's Mindset podcast. On my own journey, breathwork has been a powerful tool for releasing what no longer serves me and shifting my perspective to step into my fullest and greatest potential.
Speaker 1:Each week, I'm joined by inspiring guests, breathwork facilitators, healers and wellness enthusiasts who share how this practice has helped them and their clients heal, grow and embrace lasting change. So take a deep breath in and out, settle in and let's explore the magic of your breath together. The transformation starts now. Thank you, welcome back to Breathwork Magic. I'm your host, amanda Russo, and I am so excited to be here today with Tim Thomas, and he is the founder of Breathwork in Bed, and we are going to get into what that is, how he founded that, how he discovered that.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much for joining me, Tim, Amanda, I could tell from the little chat we had before the recording started that this is going to be a great time. So all those people listening get ready. This is going to be amazing.
Speaker 1:So can you tell us how you first ever discovered breathwork?
Speaker 2:Okay, not something I'd ever picture myself doing, and it wasn't a mystical thing. I served in the Australian Special Forces and of course you get trained to do the job. There's selection, there's all your training. But then when we're on deployment in Afghanistan, fatigue goes to a whole other level. You lose your mates. You've got mates with bits blown off of them. There's nothing you'd really call sleep and it's go, go, go. 24, 7 and there was a time there was and often, being in that space, you're turning on your own team, you're arguing with each other, and I remember being so fatigued I had this sense that I was going to die and I just had an argument with my corporal. He told me to and I've just got to check here. What's the language level on this one here, man?
Speaker 1:go for it, go for it, whatever so, anyway, I'm arguing with my corporal.
Speaker 2:He said fuck off and spend some time in the gun turret. So I'm just staring out into the dirt, just a pointless job, already fatigued. There was a part of me that, tim, it feels like you've only got two cents worth of energy. My bottom lip was in the sand. I'm like there is no freaking point. Then, after about five minutes of feeling sorry for myself, a voice said to me Tim, if you've only got two cents worth of energy, you better invest that wisely. We never got anything that you'd consider sleep in Afghanistan.
Speaker 2:But before going to sleep, one thing we used to do to get a sight picture they would tell you to take a deep breath in, let it out slowly and then squeeze the trigger. I noticed that breathing to get a sight picture would calm the whole body. So instead of focusing on my right hand which on my left hand, and I focused on my left thumb and I pictured breathing in through my thumb and breathing in light like a big ray of light into my thumb and then into my index finger, my pinky finger, and I started doing that with all my different body parts and I just noticed that all that crap that was in my head got displaced and I could drift into a really deep sleep for the amount of time that I had. So, even though it might have just been having my eyes closed for a couple hours with breath work, I found myself getting so much more sleep and I woke up and I'm like, oh, instead of two cents worth of energy, I've got six cents worth of energy. What I was doing was improving the quality of my sleep, and sleep is what they call a universal lever. It's the one thing that if you improve, it improves everything. Conversely, if you really want to destroy somebody, then you target their sleep.
Speaker 2:One thing we used to do in the special forces was actively target our enemy's sleep. We knew if we could take their sleep out for three nights, it would mess them up better than a bullet. This is the power of sleep. The difference between you and me functioning normally and you and me sort of talking like a crazy person, probably in a padded cell, is three nights of sleep. If you don't sleep for three days, you are gone, and this is a fact we exploited within the special forces.
Speaker 2:But getting back to my own journey of sleep, I noticed the more quality sleep I got through breath work, the better I felt when I woke up and then I started investing more into my body some pushups, I lifted some ammunition crates and then I got to this point where I'm good. But then I noticed my team around me, because if they're having a bad day, I'm having a bad day. And who did I want around me when good times turned bad? Do I want, you know, fatigue, tired, cranky blokes, or do I want to? You know, empowered, strong, centered blokes? Now, blokes in Australian talk means men right.
Speaker 2:And then I thought well, I have to invest in myself enough so I can pour generously into the cups of other people. That's where I discovered the power of servanthood not servitude, but servanthood, you know, pouring generously into others, not myself, but from my abundance. So my favorite saying now is I don't give of myself anymore, I give of my abundance. And I've noticed that powerful connections to self and breath work is a great way to do. That allows you to be generous with others. Because I noticed that if I was just adequate, if I was just at a hundred percent and I gave 10% to somebody, there's a part of me that says you know what? I'm at 90% now. You better do something with that 10% and I'd create attachments to that 10%. But if I invested powerfully in me and I was at 500%, you know I could give 20% away a day. And people could love it, hate it, tell me to F off, it doesn't matter, I'm not attached. What I am attached to is something greater than what can be taken from me.
Speaker 2:So do you see how that works? Like we've all been taken from, we've all been hurt, and there's a big difference. If you're at, say, 50 cents worth of energy and someone takes 25 cents, you're like give me that back, that's a massive withdrawal. But if you're at a million dollars and someone takes 25 cents, you're like I'm just going to make a million dollars tomorrow, all right, the thing is, people get really good at taking. If they can't generate for themselves, they get very good at taking from others. And we've all been taken from others and I've been guilty myself. Instead of making a million dollars the next day, I'll chase that 25 cents for the next year because that person took from me. It is wrong. I am right to want to mess that person up. Okay, and within that space, it's a very powerful statement and I'll say it again to be in touch with something so much greater than what can be taken from you.
Speaker 2:So in the dirt of af, I just discovered something that worked, and then good energy keeps leading you forward. You don't know where it's taking you, but it just keeps on taking you to the next step, next step, next step. So what ended up happening was I ended up not just pouring into my team, but I thought, well, how can I build other people up Now? I didn't know breathwork was a thing. That was just something I was using for me. So at the time I had an amount of coffee and so I started making coffee. You might not think that's a big thing, but it's quite a big thing in the special forces, because the thing about an insecure alpha male is, if you do an act of service to them that they didn't earn, then you become a servant in their eyes. Okay, yeah, you've done this. For me, that means you're below me and that was a thing for me. I'm like I worked too hard to be here and and I knew that if I made guys coffee, I'd be called the brew bitch, and I'm like there's no way that's going to happen. They're going to get politely knocked the fuck out this.
Speaker 2:This is where I discovered something I call the ego bridge. Once I dropped my ego, once I genuinely didn't care what other people thought of me and what were we over there doing, fighting for freedom, right? What's the point of having freedom if you're a slave to your own mind? If slave to your own ego, I have to be treated a certain way. I need you. Your thoughts and your head has to be the way I think they should be. Come on right. So once I dropped this ego, I called it the ego bridge. You drop your ego, you forget about all that crap and then you can walk over it to anywhere you want to get to. It becomes a place where you can basically get anything you want Now. So that was basically the origin story of breathwork in bed, getting myself out of fatigue and getting myself to a place of abundance, and it flowed on from there.
Speaker 2:When I got out of the services, I had undiagnosed PTSD, which was very common to have. You don't even know you've got it. You just know you have to drink half a carton of grog before you speak to your then wife. I call her my then wife, not my ex-wife, because there's a stand for a positive future for her. And as long as I could do my job, it was okay to have all the other areas of my house falling down. It was kind of a strange thing. I'm doing my job. People value me for it. Therefore, it's okay to have all this other crap going on, and that's what I told myself. Does that answer your question, amanda?
Speaker 1:No, I want to backtrack a tad. You mentioned about somebody telling you to take a deep breath in and you're squeezing the trigger. Who was it that mentioned that to you? You?
Speaker 2:so that's very standard drills. For anyone who has done any work with shooting a rifle, you know they've figured out that your body calms and you can slow everything down by taking a deep breath, in letting it out slowly and then squeezing. Okay, so from essential marksmanship principles, they they've known that. You know the ancient Chinese saying if you can control your breath, you can control everything. So you will see breathing integrated into these parts. But it's sort of like a side dish, it's not like the main meal, and that's why I was so super excited about being on here today, cause I'm like this girl sees that it's the main meal.
Speaker 1:Yes, I didn't realize that they taught that like when shooting. I've never shot a gun in any aspect of my life, so I had no idea. But wow, no. It makes so much sense, though, that if you can control your breath, you're going to do everything from a more calm state, but I didn't realize they even told you that there.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and like I said, that breath work gets snuck into a couple of different spaces. So sometimes when someone's presenting or you're at a psychologist place, it's like take a deep breath, but they just give you one breath. It's don't you're dipping your toe in the ocean of infinity. Why don't put your whole body in there? You know?
Speaker 1:Yes, what is one deep breath going to do? No, it's so true, and you know, I love how you mentioned like it's touched in so many places, you know, like whether it's a personal development conference and even a lot of these places. Don't call it breath work, you know, but it's like this relaxation technique or this, but it's breath work you know, and they often use it to serve their own means.
Speaker 2:They're saying, okay, we're going to sort of open you up with breath work, but then we're going to slide in our own agenda. You know, and that's pretty goddamn sinister. If you ask me, my personal philosophy is people learn that it's not a set of lungs that we own, it's a medicine cabinet with a lot of different shelves and you could even say a lot of different magic potions. So when I'm working with high school students, I'll show them how to breathe to focus past their exam stress and be cognizantly switched on. If I'm working with corporates, they like an afternoon sort of pick me up and to keep powering on. When I'm working with athletes, it's amazing how many athletes don't know how to breathe properly.
Speaker 2:And when I'm working with, my favorite thing is helping people go to sleep with peace, but also get out of bed with power. Go to sleep with peace, but also get out of bed with power, Because people don't. It is like magic, because there is such a dramatic impact and what people realize is there's so many things that we chase outside of our own skin and we think that if we get those things, we'll somehow be happy. What if you had a revolutionary idea that all those things you were looking for were actually underneath your own skin and we we access them through our breath. You know, could it be that simple? And usually you don't hear about this stuff because no one's making money from it. And if you're a fully sovereign individual that could meet their own needs, all that crap that's out there becomes redundant.
Speaker 1:No, it's true, so this helped you with your fatigue.
Speaker 2:So think of energy like money, how you invest it, how you get it back, and pay attention to the things that you can do that return a really good investment. So breathwork was one of those things that started a really positive investment stream. And what ends up happening? Because you have to be aware of this ignorance of this sort of only makes you victim to it in the way that, let's say, you spent money like you had an unlimited supply. Usually you'd go into debt and you still need money to function. So you get a loan of some kind and that sorts you out for a little bit, but then you've got to pay it back with interest and you're getting deeper and deeper in debt financially.
Speaker 2:Same thing goes with energy. If you spend it like you've got an unlimited amount of it, you end up in debt. And I need energy. On a good day, that's a coffee. On a bad day I might need six beers. On a really bad day, I become an a-hole because I need energy and I can't make it for myself, so I'll goddamn take it from other people, you know. And then you start wondering why. You understand why there's so many a-holes in the world because they need energy and they can't generate for themselves.
Speaker 1:They haven't been shown yeah, how would you say?
Speaker 2:breathwork helped you with energy well, first off, it gets rid of the wasted energy in your own head. So, afghanistan, a lot of stress going on, and the reason why breath work is so super powerful is because the body how do I say this? Okay, think of us as living organisms evolving right before we were thinking, before we were sentient, putting, you know, paintings on rock walls. We were breathing. Before we were speaking, we were breathing. So our breath goes deeper than our thoughts, goes deeper than our words, and the breath outranks the thought and outranks the talk. So when you breathe, it displaces all that crap that's in your head. And this is what psychologists haven't figured out yet. They've studied for seven years, but no one's told them that words don't go down as deep as the trauma goes. Now there's a time and a place for that kind of work. But the problem I had with psychologists is it's like they had a rifle. They can shoot 200 meters and my targets were 200 kilometers. You know they got a rifle that only shoots 200 yards and and my targets were a thousand yards away and I'm like you are just not hitting my targets. And when I'd say that to them they'd be like, oh, but look how good my gun is. I've studied seven years to get this. See the piece of paper on the wall that tells me I can shoot this great gun using a military perspective, but I'm like you're not hitting my targets. I haven't figured out the word. The trauma is deeper than the words, and so the breath work allows you to find that peace that you've been looking for. And you know we're talking about this right now and we've agreed, like at the end of this for those listening we're going to do some techniques that you're actually going to experience. This is going to be on the blah, blah, blah and you're actually going to have the, the breath work done. Right words cannot properly explain it, because it's a full body, full experience, and you know we can. I like how amanda's call it magic, because that's kind of what it's like. Because it's a full body, full experience, and you know we can. I like how amanda's call it magic, because that's kind of what it's like, because all of a sudden you're magically in this other place where all that crap that was once important is no longer important now.
Speaker 2:You know, I'm an ex-professional fighter and one thing that worked for me I'd often beat people that were more skillful than me because, cause I knew that if I attacked their breath, the breathing outranks the thinking. So if you attack someone's breath, they might be a black belt, but if you take their breath away, all of a sudden they're a white belt, and so so that was one thing that I understood, and when I'm working with professional athletes, I explained to them cause people have this. You know, our breath works, woo, woo, blah, blah, blah. So, speaking their language, this is because, at 30, they told me I was too old to do the special forces selection. Okay, in the States, I know the SEALs have a hell week. We've got like a hell 28 days, and there's periods where there's no sleep, no food for up to three days.
Speaker 2:And, to compound things, my firstborn was born on my selection, and they straight up told me they said listen, you can do selection or you can see your son born. You can't do both. And you know, I was just a guy. I was this fighter that wasn't making a lot of money, and this was my one chance to get above minimum wage, and the one thing I could do was have mastery over my body. And I thought, well, I had to see it from the kid's perspective. What does that child need. Does he need me physically there or does he need a dad with a job? And so you know, I got my then wife all the support she needed.
Speaker 2:But the point I'm trying to make here is there was a situation of high duress and everyone was saying I was too old for it. But what they didn't know was the knowledge I had was how the body works with its breath, and the body and again I tell this to professional athletes is the body's got a ranking structure for its blood. Certain parts of you hold rank over blood. So if your brain feels like it's not getting enough blood, it'll send a signal to everybody saying I'm more important than the rest of you guys, I'm getting the blood. So it'll send a signal to everybody saying I'm more important than the rest of you guys, I'm getting the blood. So it'll knock you out and all the blood will flow to your brain.
Speaker 2:Now, another important function is breathing. This diaphragm that we have, unlike our brain, is a massive muscle group, and this diaphragm can take up to one third of your total blood volume. Okay, so you might have nine liters of blood circulating, but if your diaphragm gets fatigued, it can take up to a third of that, so you've only got six liters of blood circulating. Say and this is a something that I noticed there was guys younger, fitter, faster, stronger than I, was probably smarter, but they hadn't conditioned their diaphragm like I did. There'd come a time where you could hear it and their lungs had fatigue. Their arms were stronger than mine, but my blood was in my arms and legs, not in my fatiguing lungs, and they're like how does this old man do it?
Speaker 2:Breathwork isn't just amazing for your feel good. You know, there's a performance-based aspect to this, that if people really want to power themselves up, you do have to realize that health and fitness these days is more about health and beauty. You've got to look a certain way because we're very visual creatures us. But if you want real power, you're going to go deeper than what's seen. You're going to go into the unseen. Another thing I love about breathwork is it gives you a lot of unseen power that becomes seen.
Speaker 1:You know when it's needed yeah, no, I love how you mentioned it becomes seen when it's needed. You can describe, we can use all the words, but like you can't understand it until you experience it for yourself. You know like I talk about that all the time. I loved the reference, though Taking their breath away makes them a black belt to a white belt, and that it makes a lot of sense, but I could visually see it. I'm a very visual person, so I could almost see this person not being nearly as strong and losing their breath. It makes so much sense, though Like you can't do much without your breath.
Speaker 2:And dialing it outside of the. You know a combat scenario, everyday life, if we're not breathing properly. There's two different people in this world and they're both you. There's you that's breathing fully and there's you that's not. And I'll use an extreme example to make my point. If you see someone and they go, you know they're freaking the hell out, right. This is what shallow breathing does. And if you're not conscious of your breathing, often people shallow breathe. So they're sending a signal to their whole system we're in fight or flight. We can't tap into our high states, we can't tap into the power that's inside of us because we're just in survival mode. So this is sort of people don't know that shallow.
Speaker 2:Conversely, the amount of health you get when you do breathe properly is incredible. But again, this speaks to the. There's an underlying assumption that the modern world likes to give us, and that is your value isn't inside of you, your value is outside of you, and if you you want to attain something or get something, you've got to look for it outside of yourself. You can't self-medicate with your own lungs. You can't heal yourself. Everything you know your value is out there. Heck. You can't even feel good about yourself without the right pair of shoes. So so I love breath work because it, once you tap into that power, you start seeing how redundant the crap you've been told is and you start becoming a sovereign person. And if you can imagine this, imagine before you leave the house you actually giving yourself everything you truly, truly need, and the rest of the day it's just a victory lap. Yeah, cream on the cake, baby.
Speaker 1:No, it's true. You know. You mentioned how we've been breathing longer than we've been doing everything, talking, speaking anything. What would you say for people who have maybe they call it resistance, maybe they don't call it resistance, but they have some type of hesitation or reluctancy with trying breathwork or starting a breathing routine modality, even if they don't call it quote, unquote breathwork, because I've noticed so many people that even people will say to me they're worried about what's going to come up or what they're going to uncover. If they do this and I'm like you breathe every day what would you say to that person? I need it in the nicest way, but it's like you really no, no, no, I get it.
Speaker 2:I get it. And let me just bring clarity to that. Where the origin story I was doing breathing and stuff before, but the origin story of breathwork in bed happened after I've gotten divorced. I lost house, home, regular access to kids. I'm sleeping on the couch in my parents room and the demons would come at 3 am. You know, I couldn't get to sleep and even though I was a breathwork coach and I knew breathing would help, it's like I couldn't.
Speaker 2:And so I discovered that your mind is like a garden whatever you water grows okay, and I've been watering the weeds of stress, and those stress weeds were growing, growing and then they get to a certain time point where eyeballs pop out of them and they become sentient. They know what feeds them and they become sentient. They know what feeds them and they know what starves them. So these sentient stress weeds in my head were running me and they didn't want me to breathe because they knew if I breathed I would find my peace and they'd be gone. And they didn't want that to happen. And so it was at 3am where I could have done self-harm. I could have swallowed a bunch of pills and alcohol, but instead I looked at my thumb. I said Tim, you can take one breath, just take one fucking breath. And I drove it into my chest as hard as I could and went okay, that's working, let's take two. I put two fingers into my chest Okay, this is good, let's get to three. Three breaths, five breaths, get to 10, get to 10. I got to 10. And then, somewhere between 15 and 25 breaths, all those stress weeds got uprooted and kicked out. And the rest of my brain was like, thank goodness, you kicked out the stress weeds. This is working. Do not stop, do not stop, stop, do not stop.
Speaker 2:And so if there's something we feel we cannot do, it's usually because of something we're refusing to feel. So if there's something you're refusing to do, it's usually related to something you're refusing to feel. And when breathe, we take on what I call the nature of air. So if you wave your hand through the air, you can't grab the air, you can't grasp it. That's the nature of air. It's obvious, but it needs to be stated, because when we do proper breath work, we take on its nature. All the things that we've been hanging on to, all the things that we don't want to look at, they pass through. Once we do our breath work we find our peace. I mean, what would it be like to have peace and have a mind garden free of all that stuff that has been running the show? There does come a point of resistance with your breathing, because that nature of air allows us to uproot and get rid of the things that have often been running the show. But just know, on the other side of it, let's just look at this from a math perspective those stress weeds in my head were taking up 90% of my energy without me even knowing it. So when they were gone I felt so energized because not that I had more energy per se, but I just wasn't wasting it on the 90% of those stress weeds. So I've usually found there's people only move forward when they see self-benefit. When you first think of doing breath working and you think, oh, that's probably the stress weeds telling you not to do it, the self-benefit comes in by seeing okay, if I get rid of those stress weeds, I'm going to have 50% more energy. I'm going to go from a white belt to a black belt. You know, this is the type of person I want to be. So breath work is a modality for you to being the person you want to be, and I do feel the need to mention something right now. I don't know how related it is, but I do feel moved to share when you think about moving forward and being the person you want to be. Stop right there for a second. Let's wind the clock back.
Speaker 2:I started thinking about my own parents. I'm like, oh, I wonder what my life would be like if dad married a different woman. I wonder if my life would be like if mom married a different man. And then I started thinking of the choices my father made before I was even existing. And I'm thinking you know what? There's some choices that dad made that, I see, benefited me. But then there's other choices. I'm like, no, that didn't benefit me at all. And I realized this at 25 and I was like it hit me like a sledgehammer in the head. It says there are two choices in front of me right now, and in front of that is the child that's not even born yet and people haven't even met yet. At some point in the future there's going to be a kid that says I'm so glad dad made those decisions, I'm so glad he did this and this. But then he might say, oh, you know when dad did this, this didn't work for me, and that's when I divided everything I did up into two choices the easiest choice, the choice of least resistance.
Speaker 2:It was easy, but the longer you're on it, the harder it got. So it's easier to not breathe, to ignore these sorts of things and to move forward. But the longer you're on that path, the harder it gets. And that impact doesn't just stop with you. It gets paid forward to the next generation and everyone who knows you. Conversely, the harder path, the path that takes a bit more energy, I should say, the longer on that one, the easier life gets, not because life gets easier, but you get just so much stronger. You know what I mean. And there was a big shift for me when I realized, amanda, that I don't have the privilege of taking my unresolved shit into the grave with me. My shit gets paid forward onto my kids, it gets paid forward to everyone I know. And that was when I started seeing the self-benefit in going to those places where I wouldn't naturally go, because it was in there that the self-benefit for me and everyone I interacted with was.
Speaker 1:That makes so much sense. You know, I like how you mentioned it gets passed on to other people, you know, even if it's not your kids. You know it's kind of a different topic, but I've lost a few people close to me in my life to suicide, and not even all of them have had kids, but it's still. Their pain kind of went to other people and I'm not trying to point a blame or anything like that, but it's one of those that it's like the pain that they were facing has now gone to their loved ones. Some of them didn't have children, but their mom is now dealing with this burden, almost that they won't.
Speaker 2:No, never a truer word, said Amanda. And in the veteran space we've had a lot of suicide. And the conversation that we have is and if I could speak to that because I've been there what they don't understand is the pain gets amplified to a hundred to everyone who knows you, all right, but the space they're in and this is as a dyslexic I see things in patterns and pain. It doesn't matter if it's emotional or physical, it'll get to a certain duration or intensity where it transforms from just simple pain into loneliness, isolation. I'm the only one going through this and that's a pain that us social mammals don't do well with. And I'll just speak to the conversation of the person who's about to commit suicide. It usually goes something like this what do I know right now? I know I'm in pain. I can see I'm causing pain to others. If I look into my future, I honestly can't see that changing. So here's a great idea I'm going to end the pain to me, I'm going to end the pain to you.
Speaker 2:It's like this really crazy solution they think they're doing others a favor and in their isolation all sorts of crazy things make sense. And that's where you know you've got to say to people. Look, if you want to kill yourself, no one can stop you. But don't do it on the assumption that you're going to save the pain, because you are just going to multiply that pain a hundred fold over to everybody who knows you. So don't think for a second that you doing what you think you should to end the pain is going to do it. It's only going to multiply it. And nobody has those conversations, so they don't often get a chance to go there. It's just that all they know is they're in pain, they're causing pain to others. They look into the future. There's just more pain and it appears like this angel of light in this really dark time. So I definitely get you, amanda, and again, it's one of those things that words can't adequately give voice to.
Speaker 2:Now, I know Now in terms of Thank you for sharing that and thank you for being open and vulnerable.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, absolutely. In terms of what would you say in terms of now? I've got a few people close in my life who have even told me they don't feel like they've gone through enough trauma or enough difficult things that they even need the benefit of breathwork, Like their life's not that hard, it's not that stressful. I've got a good friend of mine that says this to me and he's I don't need to do breathwork, I haven't gone through that difficult of things. And I'm like, okay, what would you say to that person?
Speaker 2:They might see breathwork as just some sort of band-aid patch for hurt people. You know, if they spoke to a professional athlete they'd say listen, if you want to perform, you're going to master your breath. If you want to improve everything in your life, you're going to master your breath. If you want to improve everything in your life, you've got to sleep better. And that's where your breath work comes in. You wake up at 3am with those thoughts in your head. You want to get back to sleep or do you want to wake up feeling like shit? You might need to have the conversation or they might have an association with you. You might be a natural healer and they're like well, if she's saying breath work, then obviously there's something there that needs healing. Let's just say you had some jock going, hey, this kicks ass. They might be a bit more open to it. You know what I mean. The only reason people do things is to avoid pain, which breathwork can certainly help with, or go towards pleasure or self-benefit. So I would only ask what are the things in your life that if you had, you'd be really happy? I'd love to have a particular job that does this, this, this Well. If you had quality sleep. That would certainly help you at work, wouldn't it? Well, yeah, it would. Well, here's a pharmaceutical free way to give yourself quality sleep and wake up feeling amazing. Oh, okay. Well, that's what I want. This will get me there. I'll just use that as a modality. You see how that works. So I've got to speak to something here, because a real healer knows that they're not the powerful one, right, but they make the connection to the person, to that powerful thing.
Speaker 2:Now, when people say they want to get to somebody somewhere and you give them a modality, say they want to get to somebody somewhere and you give them a modality, this thing is so powerful, it literally transforms everything. And then all of a sudden, they don't remember that they ever slept bad or they don't remember that they ever had shit in their head they couldn't control. I've always been like this, so why do I even need to thank the person who helped me with it? So being a healer is a pretty goddamn thankless job. I've only ever found 2% to 3% of people actually go oh, you know what, amanda, thank you so much. I see what you did for me. You know, as opposed to oh, it's a brand new day now, motherfuckers, I don't need anybody, you know yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, that's true yeah, no, that's true.
Speaker 2:That means we have to be, we have to be happy with our own redundancy, you know, and that's what we obviously aim for. But and we can't. We can't do what we do with and expect we've got to be in such an abundant state, we have to be so in touch with this thing. That's so fucking amazing that what other people say and do that's that's completely up to them. You know, we're sovereign individuals. We're aligned to this awesome, powerful thing. No, no worries.
Speaker 1:No, but everything you said made a lot of sense. You know even, what do they consider breathwork for? Do they consider breathwork to be something for how? People like that? I was like maybe you know what I mean. Okay, no, it just it makes a lot of sense. Like, how do they view this if they're saying like I haven't been through hard stuff, I don't need to praise like you're gonna die if you don't? That's kind of what I want to say to people.
Speaker 2:Yep yeah, yeah, yeah, and you know threats will get you so far. But you know, like I said, sometimes when I get to my limit of interaction with somebody, I'm thinking well, who in their life do they respect and listen to If that person said a certain thing? Or that type of person like if I'm working with athletes, I'll bring up an athlete testimony. If I'm working with housewives, I'll bring up a housewife. Okay, I'm ex-military. I love my acronyms, triple P, right. Everything I do has got to be powerful, positive and permanent. There's a lot of powerful and positive stuff out there, but how permanent is it? Who are the people that we're speaking to right now, tonight, next week, a month later? So, if I'm any good at what I do, permanency has to be is the most important thing, because what are we doing? Just throwing more entertainment through their eyeballs and ears? You know there's plenty of that out there. Our permanency is is what sets us apart, and that's what a healer does, and we're going to back this up. So at the end of this conversation, we're actually going to do some breath work. We actually going to taste, touch, feel that you can use literally tonight and whenever you want, okay, so I'm not just giving words here. So I'm just dialing back to the the need for permanency, because it's not until you have a real chronic problem that you realize that we're not in an age of information currently. We're in an age of marketing, when, when people are hurting, they're kind of looking for Superman, they're looking for the one thing that'll just knock it out of the park, and marketers give them the credit for this. They're so good at speaking those unspoken words inside your heart oh my gosh, shut up and take my money and repeat sale, repeat sale, repeat sale years and years later and you end up blaming yourself. Oh, it didn't work. I looked for help. The help didn't help. In fact, it just made it worse. So I'm never going to look for help again.
Speaker 2:All right, and a healer not as easy to find. You actually have to spend time looking for them. A healer knows that their energy, they're human, their energy is not enough for two, but they've got a connection to something super powerful and I might have taken them a week, a month, a decade to master that connection, but they'll connect you to that in far less time and then it's like you being introduced to the best friend you're going to have for the rest of your life. And so the way I see it is this everybody has a tree of this. Everybody has a tree of knowledge. You've got a tree of knowledge. Everyone listening has got a tree of knowledge. I've got a tree of knowledge.
Speaker 2:Now I think the goal we have is to be fruitful and abundant, and what an expert will do and I want to show the difference between an expert, which is often out there in the marketing field, and a master, which would be a healer. An expert knows how to give you information on how to, let's say, an apple tree. So he'll say here's a bunch of apple seeds, this is how you make an apple tree. And you're looking at these seeds, you're like this looks nothing like what I want. And how do? How exactly do I work with this? So there's lots of information out there, but it doesn't get you in touch with what you're actually after. But what a master will do will, just like the expert, live a fruitful, productive life. But the power of their communication and heart sense will graft the fruit from their life onto your tree instantly, often in one conversation, so you can have it straight away. You can have that fruit.
Speaker 2:So do you see how that works, and this is where people need to tap into their seeker self if they're wanting to. You know the old seek and you shall find. Unfortunately, marketers say look here, it is instantly. But it doesn't always work like that. So there's really good news when it comes to seeking healing and bad news.
Speaker 2:The good news is getting healing takes far less time than you think you need. The bad news is no one tells you this. Finding the right healer can take years and years. It took me six years to find a good psychologist and I wouldn't have spent that time seeking if I didn't know how to regenerate myself and tap into my own abundance. So the real, they say, knowledge is power, and that's true. But finding really powerful knowledge is really hard. Because here's the thing if you're connected fully to that power, you don't need resales. The person who showed it to you is now redundant and that's not what the marketers want. They want those repeat sales. So it's really up to the individual to seek out those healers and ironically, it's often hiding in plain sight like simple breath work. Who knew Right?
Speaker 1:Yeah, no. So now you mentioned about healers and healing. Would you say that you think people could ever be fully healed?
Speaker 2:from what anything, yeah well if you think of a mental illness or a physical illness. Illness is something that blocks you from your connection to health, connection to vitality, connection to the person you want to be. So healing for me is removing those blockages. Now they could be past hurts, that could be physical hurts, and what a healer does is a goes into those places of blockages, removes those blockages and our and our body knows how to heal. But sometimes we don't know how to overcome our own blockages. So remember, how I said earlier, that pain it doesn't matter if it's physical or emotional. It'll get to a certain duration or intensity where we feel we're all alone. It's just me going through it and that's a massive blockage, feeling like you're all alone. And look, I had a goal of saving 40 veteran lives from suicide and I said if I attain that goal I'll die happy. And that was achieved within one year because I understood that if you break someone's isolation, that's when the healing can begin, because millions of dollars of resources get poured into veteran recovery right, but it's all water off a duck's back.
Speaker 2:If the person's feeling alone and isolated, you could have the best psychologist in front of you, but if you're feeling alone and isolated, you know who to trust. No one's got my back. I have to have my guard up the whole time. Then it's all just water up a duck's back. So breaking the isolation is the first step. But then understanding that, because you know if I drop my guard for a second, something bad's going to happen. It's going to be my fault. So you're often very fatigued from being alone and isolated. So there you are in pain, alone and isolated, and fatigue just help. Even if you're a black belt, you're functioning at a white belt level.
Speaker 2:Breaking the isolation, getting a person out of fatigue just those two things I noticed. Everyone's got this inner compass that knows where they need to go. But if you brush the shit off of that, if you brushed off the loneliness and the isolation and the fatigue, it's like their inner compass knew where to go next. They knew where their energetic journey was Okay. And that energetic generation is the part where I would say you're healed because you've got that taste of the good stuff.
Speaker 2:You want more, you want more, and then it gets to a point where you actually want to pay it forward. You know, it's very natural for us humans to be generous, but if we're not giving of our abundance. It's a matter of time before we go. Nah, I'm never going to want to do that again. Some of the most angry people started off as generous people because the world took, took, took, and then they're like nah, I'm putting a boundary up the hell with you all. I got hurt once. I'm never going to let that happen again. I got hurt once, I'm never going to let that happen again. So, for me, healing is shaking that shit off your inner compass, which, if you ask me what it is, our healing will then allow us to go. You know what? This is what I really wanted to do in this world. Do that feels good? Do that feels good? And then you get to a point where you really want to give back. I hope that answers your question, amanda.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, it does. That makes a lot of sense. You know I want to transition a tad. We talked a lot about how breathwork has helped you with fatigue and sleep, but I'm curious outside of that, what would you say it's helped you with the most?
Speaker 2:great question. Okay, so I got chronic injuries from carrying heavy shit in the special forces, right? No, not a lot of cartilage in my discs, and I was laid up three weeks out of four. I was proper fucked. And the amount of pharmaceuticals they gave me I didn't know.
Speaker 2:Breathwork was an anti-inflammatory, you know. People wonder why I do about two hours of breathwork a day. Because it drops your pain scales, it creates anti-inflammation. You know I can move, I can function, I can fight with my 20-year-old son, you know, and I still competitively do that. I mean, I'm punching past 50 right now, but I'm keeping up. I'm more than keeping up with what 20-year-olds will do in an athletic space and I put that largely down to the physical healing that takes place when you breathe Presence of oxygen, absence of disease or, if I'm talking to athletes, oxygen dissolves lactic acid. So breathing more helps you function better and that's why I'm such a firm advocate of breath work before sleep or breath work in bed, because your body does a big deep clean before going to sleep. As you sleep it does this big deep clean of all the different places. So giving that a big oxygen boost before you go into sleep is a massive advantage for the detoxification of your own body. So when you're waking up in the morning you're like crap. I feel so much better Because I know for a fact.
Speaker 2:When I wasn't breathing and I had all these chronic injuries, the outside world was always telling me no, you don't have anything inside of you that can heal yourself. Take these pills. And no one tells you the cost of taking those pills. All right, I lost six years of my life to pills when I told a doctor that I couldn't sleep and I became a zombified pill eater for six years. Now I can't get that time back, but, as God is my witness, I don't want anyone else to go into that space without having a pharmaceutical free option, and I'm not bagging out pharmaceuticals. There's a time and a place for everything. But they don't tell you the cost of taking it and they don't tell you how hard it is to come off those things. There's a bunch of stuff that I don't tell you, how hard it is to come off those things. There's a bunch of stuff that I don't remember from that six years, and I think I lost a bunch of memories too from prior the effect, because it scared the hell out of me.
Speaker 2:One day, amanda, I was at a mate's place and I said, oh, this place looks familiar. Then he looked at me like I was an idiot and he goes Tim, you helped me move in here and I'm like it's that, no way, oh my gosh. And I'm like geez, I hope I was a good person. You know, if I've forgotten so much stuff, am I gonna have some guy coming up and punch me in the face for something? You know, when you're coming off this stuff, the intense pain, discomfort, discomfort, craziness A second feels like a minute, a minute feels like an hour, a day feels like a year, but they're so happy to throw these pills at you without telling you the options that are there. So it really comes down to you know, motivated people like you and me to say, look, let's look at this as an option. It might just serve you.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's amazing. Anti-inflammatory Okay. I love how you mentioned pharmaceuticals. I agree there's a time and place, but so many of them have so many side effects. I am somebody who had daily chronic migraines for years. I went through so many different pharmaceuticals to the point where the last one I was on I was fainting. I was fainting in public places and having no recollection of it and I was like I'm done. I'm done with this, and it was diet and meditating that slowly started to help me change and I don't have my brains anymore and I don't take any medications.
Speaker 1:Well done you, cause it was like it was. Honestly, it was scary as fuck. You know, I was, I was at a mall and thankfully I wasn't by myself, but I passed out in an American Eagle and I was like I'm 20 years old, passing out in an American Eagle, like I'm not like an unhealthy, like I'm 20 years old, passing out in an American eagle, like I'm not like an unhealthy, like I wasn't, like, yeah, basically like I didn't have no six foot pack abs, but I'm like I'm pretty healthy. I'm like what the hell is going on, you know and that's that's something I emphasize a lot in terms of breathwork too is there's not all these crazy different side effects from it, you know?
Speaker 2:It's addictive but at the same time, non-addictive.
Speaker 1:No, absolutely yeah, Thank you so much.
Speaker 2:That's a super powerful, super powerful share. Let's hope that people that are listening can take something from that, because the marketers will let you think that superman's going to fly down and sweep away all your problems. Just hand over your money and your power and we'll take care of it, but they don't tell you the cost. You know that is an energy loan that will need to be paid back with interest. They don't tell you about that that's true, an energy loan.
Speaker 1:I like that analogy. Thank you so much for speaking with me. I loved this.
Speaker 2:It's been very enjoyable and I just we just need to. I gave my word to showing everybody something to take home to make this permanent. It's been a great conversation, but you know what's going to happen a week later.
Speaker 2:I want to give you something that you can use whenever. If you're listening to it now, you'll get something from this. Now. The only request is do this in a safe place. Don't be driving or handling any sort of equipment that could do harm. You want to be seated or laying down, and I'm going to show you a very simple way to take a full breath. I'm going to show you a very simple way to take a full breath. I'm going to show you how to completely relax your body and mind in three breaths, and the first thing we need to do is show people how to take a full breath, because most people they've been breathing their whole lives, so they're used to doing it a certain way. So to do it differently is a little tricky. Now, don't beat yourself up. There's no wrong way. To do it differently is a little tricky. Now don't beat yourself up. There's no wrong way to do this. This is just you're stepping into a space right now that most people never step into. So just acknowledge yourself for this. All right, and I've broken it down into very easy steps. I'll be with you the whole time and hopefully, by the end of it, you will get more from this than just the words that you've been hearing between Amanda and myself. So, if everyone's in a comfortable position, amanda, if I could have you just follow my gentle invitations. Awesome, just let that go Now, those of you listening if you've taken the invitation to breathe in, then in again you might notice a little bit of extra space opening up in your top third of your lungs.
Speaker 2:Okay, now, this top third, for the sake of calling it a name, we're going to call it your secondary inhale. So you have your primary inhale where you breathe in normally, and your secondary inhale is where you work a little bit more conscious to breathe a bit more air in. So what we're going to do now is just breathe in and try and smooth it out to breathe in again. So we're going to breathe in your primary and then into your secondary. So when you're ready, just breathe in and then in again to suck it into your secondary now and just hold it there for a second. Hold your breath, just wriggle it around. Wriggle around, open up that space, give it a nice wriggle. Move your shoulders. Move your shoulders, feel how that opens up.
Speaker 1:And I invite you to let it out with a sigh.
Speaker 2:So now you guys didn't know this, but you've got turbo buttons underneath your fingers. Okay, so your thumb and your pointer finger and your index are going to be pinching together. Okay, so these are going to be your turbo buttons. So when we breathe in on our own, when it gets to the secondary inhale, we're going to pinch our fingers and thumbs together as hard as we can and notice how that turbo boosts your secondary inhale. Does that make sense, amanda? So you're going to be breathing in normally and then you, so it's your two, your pointer finger, those, yeah, that's it. Yep, good, and you're going to be driving them in together and you just notice how that gives your secondary inhale a little turbo boost. So whenever you're ready, just breathe in. When you get to your secondary inhale, hit the turbo buttons and notice how that sort of filled up a little bit more, and then just let it out with a sigh. So good, did you notice that it gave you a bit of a boost when you drove your thumb into your fingers?
Speaker 1:I did. Why was that?
Speaker 2:There's a number of reasons. Okay, so when you make a fist, you send more electricity through your whole body. So when you're at the doctors and you know how he taps your knee to get a response from the knee, if he doesn't get a response, he'll get you to grab your hands and make a fist. And when I asked the doctor why that was, he says oh, that sends more electricity through your whole body. So simply doing that adds more energy to those muscles we don't often use in our secondary inhale. Athletes across the board use the grip strength to improve overall strength. So if somebody's lifting and they can only lift, say, 100 kilos, what the coach will get them to do is grab the bar, try and break the bar and all of a sudden they can lift like 110 kilos. Okay, so we're tapping into our body's natural sense. But when it comes to the breathing in these two little fingers, well, these four fingers and two thumbs, for the minute we're gonna juice up our secondary inhale. Think of your power buttons and your chin, all right, and think of it like a triangle. And what we're gonna do? We're gonna breathe in and when it gets to the primary inhale, we hit the turbo buttons, we're gonna raise our chin and our eyes and look at the ceiling. So we're going to breathe in. Then hit the turbo buttons and raise our chin and raise our face and look at the ceiling as we do that and you'll notice how much more air you can fit. So everyone knows what they're doing. They got their nice little power triangle ready. So so when you're ready, just breathe in, hit your power triangle, raise your chin, raise your chin, raise your chin, look at the ceiling, look at the ceiling, raise your chin and then just let it out. Very good, and let's just make that nice and smooth. So we're breathing in and then raising our chin, raising our chest at the same time too. So your sternum is kind of attached to your chin, so when you really raise that chin, it's like you're trying to open up your heart. Okay, so if you look at me from the side profile, see I'm sort of reaching up and almost sort of doing a limbo, all right. So this is what we're trying to do. We're hitting the power buttons and we're almost doing a bit of a limbo with raising up our chin and chest. Cool, cool, ready to give that a go? Yeah, all right, let's hit it, breathing in. When you're ready, hit your turbo buttons, raise your chin. Raise your chin, raise your chest, wriggle it around, move your shoulders back and forth and let it out with a very good we are. That's the first half of this, because up here, your top.
Speaker 2:Third, I call that your breath of possibility. If something seems impossible, breathe up into here and these power buttons you can really be quite forceful, sucking that air up into this top part here, because we hold a lot of tension. Is there something in my head that I don't want there? I'll discreetly, if I'm outside in a queue, I'll really suck it in up here and push it around the place. If something's impossible, I'll make it possible. I'll treat this as my negative thought interruption button. It interrupts negative thoughts Whether my hand's in my pocket or down by my side. I'll pull it into here. And that really rapid snort through your nose. My coach always taught me to snort through my nose because the way it was explained to me was you suck that through your sinuses into your brain. It's like you oxygenate your brain with that really rapid inhale through your nose and this is what these little power buttons can do. So does that make sense?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:All right. So you've just met your breath of possibility, which is your top third. Then there's your breath of peace, which is your bottom third, down by your belly button. Okay, so what we're going to do here is we're going to breathe in with our power buttons and open up, we're going to hold our breath and then we're going to let everything collapse down, a bit like rolling the end of the toothpaste down and push that into our bellies. Our hands are going to be in our bellies and we're going to hold it down there and pressurize it, and we're going to sort of stop the air coming out with our mouth and just let it bleed out with that. Just letting it bleed out slowly, slowly, slowly. And this will take a little bit of practice. I don't think you can. You know, normally it's normally by the third breath. It all makes sense and you actually get the feel of it. But we're going to hit that power triangle, hold our breath, massage it down, down, down, down down, hold it down low, pressurize it and then, as long as you can, the longer the better, but just let everything sort of collapse down. Is everyone ready for that? But just let everything sort of collapse down. Is everyone ready for that. So, when you're ready, have your power buttons ready, breathing in, hit your power buttons, raise your chin, raise your chest, lean back a little bit and, once you're all the way in, hold your breath, let yourself collapse forward. Holding your breath, collapse forward, feel that air moving past your upper chest, middle chest, down into your belly. Let your head go forward, hold your breath and let it out with a super slow. Now, that can take a little bit, so we're going to do that two more times and you'll find because, again, this is the first time a lot of people have done this. All right, so give yourself a few more goes. We're going to do this two more times and you'll find because, again, this is the first time a lot of people have done this. All right, so give yourself a few more goes. We're going to do this two more times and usually by the third time. Oh, I can actually feel all that, but the idea is to make that sort of balloon in your belly and let it out super slow. So we're going to do that two more times. You're ready.
Speaker 2:So, breathing in, hit your power buttons, open up that chest, head back, chest up, open up the heart. Holding the breath. Holding the breath. Wriggle the shoulders, wriggle the shoulders. Allow your head to collapse forward. Allow your head to collapse forward. Let all the air go into your belly, push it into your belly, collapse forward, hold that into your belly with your hands on your belly, hold it in your belly and then let it out with a super slow, super slow, and just let everything relax. Let your shoulders relax, let your face relax, your arms relax, feeling how you exhale. Everything just falls away. Everything just falls away, quite delightfully. And then, when you're ready, we're going to do it one last time.
Speaker 2:So, breathing in, open everything up, raise the chin, raise the chest. Feel that chin raising and the sternum raising, like you're opening up your heart. You've got it completely full. Hold your breath, wriggle your shoulders, let it fall through your upper chest, through your middle chest, falling, rolling it down, rolling it down, push it down low, push it down low, like you're holding a balloon underneath your belly button. A balloon underneath your belly button, and this time, let it out super, super slow. Let your head relax forward, let everything relax forward, super, super slow, and just hold that position and let that sensation wash through every cell in your body. You've accessed the breath of peace and with your eyes closed.
Speaker 2:I just invite you to put yourself back into your chair and allow that chair to hold you. That chair was built to hold you, support you. Often, in our tension, we don't allow ourselves to be fully held and supported. It's like our intention, is our own way of holding ourselves. But it doesn't work like that. It's only when we allow ourselves to be held. That chair was built to hold you. Let yourself feel supported and held by that chair, let your weight go into it and feel how wonderful it is to be completely supported, completely held and breathing deeply. That sensation through every cell, every fiber, every thought pattern.
Speaker 2:If something comes across your mind, simply take a deeper breath and send it on its way. Know that the connection with your breath is deeper than any thought, any word, and the deeper you breathe, the deeper you go. There's no bottom to this. You are completely supported, completely held, completely safe. Allow yourself to be supported by your breath and know that your breath will always be there. It'll be your closest friend, your best ally. It'll always be there when you need it.
Speaker 2:And it's moments like this we realize so often. We struggle and strive for certain things, but it's moments like this we realize everything we need, everything we truly want is underneath our own skin, a breath away. What a wondrous gift. You can stay in this place, breathing deeply. The freedom you have is yours. Acknowledge yourself for this new practice. Acknowledge yourself for the peace you now have access to. In three simple breaths, you've got a glimpse of the ocean, and, whenever you're ready, I invite you to take some breaths in through your nose and start consciously coming back into your body, knowing that this space that you've created is always going to be there for you.
Speaker 1:Thank you, I love that.
Speaker 2:How's your body feeling?
Speaker 1:Very relaxed, yeah, very like just Zen, really in the moment, like I couldn't. I couldn't tell you everything we talked about for the past hour If I had to. Some of it, but not everything I very like just.
Speaker 2:Yeah, chill, that was. Yeah, that was three, and probably one of those you did. Probably, you know you maximized one of those. But if people can access that who are listening to this, I really want you to not just hear about this stuff, but experience it for yourself, and I had to go to Afghanistan to realize, when the person next to me is stronger, I'm stronger, and I asked you to consider the possibility for those of you listening, if you can master this for you, how many other people in your world would need that same experience to calm their body, to calm their mind, to get in touch with their own peace, to get in touch with their own power, to feel completely supported?
Speaker 1:I love what you said there. When the person next to me is stronger, I'm strong. I love what you said there when the person next to me is stronger, I'm strong. That's so powerful. It's so true, though. Well, thank you so much.
Speaker 2:I really appreciate it, and where can the listeners connect with if they want to get in touch? Well, if you've got a phone, you simply go into your app store and look up three words breath work in bed. Like breakfast in bed, but breath work in bed. It'll ask you two simple questions when you want to go to sleep, when you want to wake up, and we guide you to sleep with peace, out of bed, with power, and once you tell it what you want, it does the work for you. So I look forward to serving you. I can't do what you do, but if I can improve the quality of your sleep, then you're going to do what you do better.
Speaker 1:That's amazing. Thank you so much. And any final words for the listeners. I do just like to leave it back to you.
Speaker 2:Well, for thousands of years the Chinese have been saying control your breath, control everything. And they're just words. But what I hope from that experience where you actually breathe fully, if you can really master that, everywhere you go, you're going to have that little power button where you can get your possibility back. Because when I was on pills, I had pills not just in the medicine cabinet, I had it in the car, in the fruit bowl, all these different places around my house. So I would be continually self-medicating when people ask me how much should I breathe?
Speaker 2:Well, you breathe whenever you feel like you want to align yourself back to being the person you want to be. So now that you've got that little bit of medicine in your system, I encourage you to build that like a muscle memory, because when the stress does go, get ready, you want to have that as part of your muscle memory. We do what we always do when we're stressed. So if you can build that up in your own time, where it's safe to do so, when things get stressed, you go oh, I see that I'm going to breathe now and just watch the world open up in ways you never even thought possible. And again, not just for you, for others. So I'm not just talking to one person or two or whatever. However many people listen to this. You all know people and if you can do this for you, you can do this for them.
Speaker 1:Well, thank you so much. I really really appreciate this. This was amazing.
Speaker 2:It doesn't seem like an out, but it's been so great.
Speaker 1:I know it really doesn't Well. Thank you guys so much for tuning in to another episode of Breathwork Magic. Thank you for tuning in to Breathwork Magic. I hope today's episode inspired you to connect more deeply with your breath and embrace the transformation that it can bring. Remember, as long as you have your breath, you have options. You're not stuck. You can make a change, you can make a shift. Each inhale is a new beginner and every exhale is a chance to let go of what no longer serves you.
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