Breathwork Magic
Welcome to Breathwork Magic, a podcast dedicated to exploring the life-changing power of Breathwork. Discover how conscious breathing can unlock inner peace, resilience, and clarity as we dive into inspiring stories and practical insights. Whether you’re new to Breathwork or looking to deepen your practice, each episode offers wisdom to help you connect more fully with yourself and the world around you. Everything starts and ends with the breath.
Breathwork Magic
She Started Breathwork at 5… and It Changed Her Life
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Your breath can reveal what words sometimes can’t.
In this episode of Breathwork Magic, Amanda Russo sits down with Harmony Kwiker, a transpersonal psychotherapist, teacher, and author whose journey with breathwork began at just five years old. Growing up in a home where meditation, breathwork, and healing practices were part of daily life, Harmony witnessed firsthand how the simple act of breathing could shift someone from heaviness into lightness. Their conversation explores how these early experiences shaped her path into psychotherapy and why breathwork continues to be one of the most powerful tools for healing and transformation.
Together, they explore the connection between breathwork and therapy, how breath allows us to access preverbal emotions and trauma without needing to explain them, and why integration and compassionate awareness are essential parts of the healing process. Harmony also shares her perspective on transpersonal therapy, the importance of spaciousness in the nervous system, and why breathwork can help us reconnect with our innate wisdom. From breathing in the bath to honoring both the “life urge” and the “death urge,” this episode offers a grounded and expansive look at what it really means to heal, surrender, and fully embrace being alive.
Listeners will hear how breathwork can support trauma healing, emotional release, and nervous system regulation while also learning why individual breathwork sessions can be profoundly different from group experiences. Harmony also shares how therapists themselves can benefit from breathwork training to deepen their capacity to hold space for others.
Whether you’re new to breathwork or already exploring its deeper layers, this conversation invites you to remember something simple and powerful:
As long as you have your breath, you have options.
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Opening And Breathwork Promise
SPEAKER_01Welcome to Breathwork Magic, the podcast that explores the life-changing power of your breath. Breathwork isn't just a practice, it's a gateway to healing, transformation, and shifting to a new mindset by letting go of the past and embracing the possibilities of the present moment. I'm Amanda Russo, your host, a sodified breathwork facilitator, level two Reiki practitioner, and creator of the Mando's Mindset Podcast. On my own journey, breathwork has been a powerful tool for releasing what no longer serves me and shifting my perspective to step into my fullest and greatest potential. Each week, I'm joined by inspiring guests, breath work facilitators, healers, and wellness enthusiasts who share how this practice has helped them and their clients heal, grow, and embrace lasting change. So take a deep breath. In and out. Settle in. And I am here today with Harmony Cruyper, and I am so excited to speak with her. She experienced her first breathwork session at just five years old. And when she told me that, it blew me away. Thank you so much for joining me.
SPEAKER_00Thank you so much for having me and for this beautiful offering of your podcast. What a gift.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely, absolutely. So I am so curious how that came to be about the breath work session at five.
Meditation Initiation And Firewalk Trust
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you know, my mom um obviously was a hippie. They named me Harmony. And um, she started practicing breath work with one of her teachers at the time, her meditation teacher, through the lineage of Kriya Yoga breathwork. And uh then she trained to be a breath worker, and her house was designed as such that I would be watching cartoons in the living room, and she would have private breath work sessions in the room right next to me. And I was so curious because what I could see from the innocence of my young eyes was that people would walk into our home looking sort of dense and heavy, and they would leave looking really fluffy and light and like in bliss. And I was like, I want and I would also hear them screaming. Breath work back in the 80s of a little bit more about catharsis and like screaming and getting it out. It's very different now, but back then there was a lot of emotional catharsis. And um, I just told my mom that I started asking her about it, and she tried to explain it to me, and then she just asked if I wanted to try it. And I said yes. And so I went to the room where she did her sessions, and I remember right away I touched into anxiety was the first thing that I noticed. And I'll say it was probably the first time that I noticed it consciously, right? Like I was a very anxious child, I was very pensive and um wanting to please everyone all the time. And when I started to breathe, I could feel that anxiety in my body, and I asked for my stuffed unicorn. If my mom went and got me my stuffed unicorn from my bedroom because I just needed something that could resource me. And it wasn't a full cycle, a full energetic breathing cycle, but it was the beginning of a deep understanding that healing arises from within. And I'll say that my mom offered a lot of workshops. And so at the age of six, I was initiated into transcendental meditation, and so I started a meditation practice. At age seven, I did a firewalk. You know, I so the whole unfolding was really purposeful and meaningful to me, um, which ultimately also I would assist in my mom's workshops as a teenager. I would support them and, you know, prepare food and stuff. And it was such a beautiful gift to see over and over again people surrender, release, be reminded of their own inner healer, and to just be seeped in that as the culture of my home was so powerful.
SPEAKER_01Wow. I bet that was so so fascinating to witness people coming into your home looking dense, looking heavy, maybe even upset, and leaving like full of life.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and that's the gift of breath work because what did they do? They laid down on the ground and breathed in a very specific way, you know, through a very intentional practice, but it's so simple, and that we all have access to this is just one of the most beautiful things about breath work to me.
SPEAKER_01I completely agree. Now, I'm curious, I don't know if you remember this, but you learning about meditation and breath work and even the firewalk at such a young age. Was this any of this stuff you shared with other kids?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, actually. Um, so I had an older sister and also my best friend and my mom's best friend lived six houses down. And so my best friend Rachel and I were standing there watching everybody from the workshop walk across these hot coals, like deciding, are we really gonna do this? And so, yeah, I had I had some companions in my alternative upbringing.
SPEAKER_01That's how much older is your sister? Three years. Nice. Okay. Now I'm curious, did you do more firewalks later in life?
SPEAKER_00No, the one was enough for me. It was it was quite an experience, especially at such a young age. With breath work, was meditation, and with the fire walk, the the lesson for me was continually about letting go and trusting, even when I didn't know what was gonna happen. And so that like deep letting go and that deep surrender, um you know, it just informed so much of who I became and who I am. Where, you know, any state that arises inside of me, it doesn't live there for too long because I understand that it's something that I'm here to be with and love and tend to and allow to move through me rather than cling to it and identify with it.
SPEAKER_01That makes so much sense that you're able to let go more, you know, because you've had that experience. Now, did you talk about this experience with any like classmates or anybody like growing up?
Growing Up Fringe And Finding Meaning
Bringing Breath Into Psychotherapy
SPEAKER_00I can't imagine I did, no. I mean, aside from you know, my best friend Rachel. Um, it actually wasn't until I was much older that I realized how special this was. You know, it was just like other kids went home and maybe they went to church or something. I don't know. That's not what we did. My house, we chanted and did the breath work. But um it was very much, it was it was something that I just yeah, there were other things in my life growing up that actually had me feel more fringe. Like, for example, my mom um was a lesbian, and at the time in the 80s, like that was something that I was so confused about. Like, what does this mean about who I am? And so there were just a lot of there were a lot of different things growing up that had me question my identity really often and what I wanted to share and what I wanted to keep private. But in 2018, when I wrote my first book at memoir, and I really like dove deep into these memories and like remembering the transmissions that I would have meditating at six years old and the clarity of which I could see the way the universe worked, just sitting alone in my room. And you know, to understand how powerful that that really was for me, it didn't really hit me until I was much, much older. I'm curious, how did it hit you, if you remember? Well, so I'm a psychotherapist and I a transpersonal psychotherapist, and I teach transpersonal counseling and gestalt therapy at Naropa University. And I entered into this field because I was so um astonished by its limitations, because I had had these big powerful experiences growing up, and then I would, if something, if I felt depressed or um stuck in a relationship pattern that I couldn't find my way through and I would seek therapy, I was very disappointed in how small and disempowered I felt in those situations. And so I wanted to understand what I was experiencing in breath work and in meditation and contemplative practices and what was happening in therapy, and I wanted to really bridge the divide. But it wasn't until I really started seeing clients in my own private practice where I could see their subtle energy, like how I had described when my mom's clients would walk in feeling dense and heavy and leave feeling light and fluffy. I'd forgotten that I had that gift. I had completely fallen asleep to it until I was sitting with my clients and I could see their energy, and they seemed to not be able to describe it. And so I was very confused. Why am I seeing something that they're not describing? And I started exploring the transpersonal in the therapeutic container. And that that is really when I realized all of these experiences I had as a child really set me up to be a change maker in the field of psychotherapy. And and that has been just such a huge gift because I think that therapists are hungry for it.
SPEAKER_01That makes a lot of sense. Do you incorporate any sort of breath work or breathing in your therapy session?
SPEAKER_00Well, interestingly, what I do is in my classes that I teach, I have a breath worker come in and lead student therapists in breath work. Because I really believe that the practice of learning how to create inner spaciousness, how to um, like, let's say there's a painful thought pattern, how to keep breathing, just allow the like fill yourself up with breath and and see the inherent intelligence of our own system and how we can actually naturally find our way back into balance. I believe that anybody coming into the field of psychotherapy really needs to have that experience at least once, minimum, hopefully 10 times or more. Um, and so for me, most of my work is centered now on teaching therapists. I do sometimes recommend that my clients experience breath work, but a session with me in and of itself is very much the equivalent of many different types of non-ordinary states of consciousness. But, you know, like psychedelic experiences and breath work, even though I'm not a psychedelic assisted therapist and I'm not using that with my clients, the experience itself can feel that way because we're accessing non-ordinary states of consciousness just through the practice of awareness itself.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I love that you have the therapist you're training experience the breath work. I think that is so, so powerful.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. You know, and this is just an aside, Amanda, because here on the corner of your screen it says just breathe. And I at the bottom there. And when I was in middle school, you know, we had an answering machine. This was the 80s, and the outgoing message on the answering machine, my mom at the end of it said, and as always, remember to breathe. And then she would take a huge breath, and huh? You know, in some ways I was totally mortified, but now I just I get there. Yeah, let's remember everybody to breathe. Let's just remind everybody to breathe.
SPEAKER_01It's so true, and it's such a powerful reminder, even like you mentioned, if somebody gets upset by something, if we are excited about something, so often we stop breathing, even quickly, you know? And so that little reminder, it's like, don't forget to take a breath.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah. I'll also say that I do demos, therapy demos in my classes that I teach, and on my podcast, I actually do therapy demos also. Um, but my students often comment on how I breathe when I'm holding space for the client because I want to make sure that my system stays open and empty and spacious, that I'm not contracting. And so my focus is on really like where's the contraction here? Where's the release? And how can we honor that system without trying to force it to be something other than it is? So to continue to create as much awareness and space around that bracing or that holding of the breath and just noticing where the breath wants to go naturally without trying to push past, you know, because that's really the practice of breath work itself.
SPEAKER_01I'm curious what breath work looks like for you today, in your life today.
SPEAKER_00Breath work for me is one of my biggest resources for keeping myself well and clear and healthy and joyful. And I'm not sure about you because I don't know about your lineage, but um my mom would often offer breath work sessions in our hot tub. So water because it's womb-like. And so one of my favorite ways to breathe is in my bathtub. So I'm, you know, at least once a month. I'm a fairly busy person, but if I don't get it once a month, I notice myself starting to sort of just get a little heavier, a little flatter, even, you know, a little less light and sparkly. So I like to breathe in the bath. I like to honor all of the elements when I breathe. So breath, there's air, right? And I like to be in the water and then have candles for fire and then planes for earth.
SPEAKER_01I love that. A hot tub. I've heard like you hear water, you hear cold plunges and whim off, and but I've never thought of a hot tub.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so Leonard uh, sorry, Leonard Orr. Are you familiar with Leonard Orr?
SPEAKER_01I'm not.
SPEAKER_00So Leonard Orr was really the original breath worker in the West who sort of brought it over from India, and that's the lineage of Kriya yoga as it really kind of first arrived here in the States. And that's the lineage that my mom was taught through. But he owned this land in California called Sierra Hot Springs. And if you ever have the chance to do a breathwork training there, my friends Leonard passed away like about five years ago. And my friends who've been teaching for him, they've continued on in his lineage. But the land itself, because there's just been so much breath work and there's these hot springs, there is my point of this, is that you know, a week of breathing on this land that's like just feels so anxious, sorry, ancient, um, with all of these like beautiful nature beings everywhere. And then being able to breathe in the hot springs as well. It's it's so spectacular.
SPEAKER_01Do you know any about the benefits of that?
SPEAKER_00Well, it's actually it was more about how Leonard first discovered breath work before he learned about what was happening in India from Hitakam Babaji. So he had been running around doing something, and then he got in a bath and he just happened to be breathing quickly. And he sort of accidentally gave himself a breath work session when he didn't know what it was. And so then he started this practice, and because it feels so womb-like, but the water itself, like we're made of so much water in our bodies. The water itself is very um relaxing, you know, such a yin experience. And so it kind of helps to soften the system and support a deeper surrender. Um, but it was during that time where he sort of got this intuitive like information that he should go to India, and that's where he learned about breath work.
SPEAKER_01That is so fascinating to me. I will have to do more research on that. Thank you for sharing that. Yeah. No, I'm curious what you would say breath work has helped you shift in your life the most.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so there's so many things. There's like a million different ways I can answer that, Amanda. Um, but the first thing that comes to my mind is that when I was an infant, I had a near-death experience. So I fell from a very high bed and I hit my head on a dresser, on a hard dresser on the way down, and fell to the ground. And, you know, when I access that experience in and of itself during breath work, it's been deeply healing and transformative. But there's this way that the way that I developed was to sort of um like stalk the pain, right? Like pay attention to the pain of my head in an effort to prevent it. And as a therapist, I realized that many people who've experienced trauma do this. We hold on to the trauma in an unconscious attempt to prevent it from happening again. And, you know, because the way that I formed around this disassociation from the head trauma, but also the way that, you know, there is also a portal of light, having had that near death experience. Um it's it's almost hard to describe, but like the softening of my energy body that happens from breath work, the clarity of my mind, and the deep repair to my inner young one who, you know, is all alone in that deep, deep pain, didn't have words for the pain because it is a pre-verbal experience. Um, which is one of the things that I love about breath work is that we're not using our words, right? And so we can access the preverbal in such a graceful way.
SPEAKER_01Wow, that's powerful. I agree though, about not using the words. You know, I think that's one of the things that is so, so powerful about breath work is nothing, nothing has to be said, nothing is said, you know.
SPEAKER_00All you gotta do is keep breathing.
SPEAKER_01I'm curious as somebody involved in therapy, and you've been in that that field for so long. I'm not sure if you've heard this, but as somebody involved in breath work, I've heard this a lot that it's said to be like 20 years of therapy without saying a word.
SPEAKER_00Well, it's interesting. I I think on one level it is because of the deep like excavating and the deep catharsis that happens. But on another hand, it really isn't because the integration that happens from um, especially in my approach to psychotherapy, which is very transpersonal, is that being witnessed by a clear mirror of reflection and really like seeing ourselves in our patterns is very integrative. I have a lot of clients who are breath workers themselves or who do breath work quite a bit, um, or even, you know, like plant medicine too. There's there's a need to like also bring it back into deep integration so that, you know, we can see the way that we show up in relationships. And so I think in some deep ways it there's an equivalent there, but in other ways, there's something missing.
SPEAKER_01I I was just curious as a therapist, like what you thought about that phrase, about that comment. Because I've never had the opportunity to ask a therapist that you know, I get what it means. Like I think even some of the things we're not conscious of. Like I've been able to heal anger of grief that I had that I didn't realize I still had with the passing of my grandma. And I think in terms of that, like talking about it, I wasn't aware of it. So like it can bring some of the unconscious to the surface. But I get what you mean about the integrating part and the miro back to you.
Transpersonal Therapy Beyond Talk
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think the other thing that can be just like slightly confusing is that we have like a certain idea of what talk therapy is, and that's very different from what I do as a transpersonal therapist. I could describe that more if you're interested, but clients are just talking about it when they're in therapy with me. They're they're doing a deeper, a deeper dive than that. Yeah. So transpersonal literally, literally means beyond personal identity. And that means that that myself as the clinician is I'm holding space from an expanded state of consciousness, what I call awake awareness. And I'm supporting my clients in shifting states of consciousness as well as we begin. So I never ask them about anything. I don't engage with the thought because, you know, I like to paraphrase Einstein here and say that we can't transform our suffering from the same level of thinking that causes it. So I'm not trying to engage the mind or the ordinary awareness. I'm trying to support my clients in shifting states of consciousness so that they become the more compassionate, loving witness for themselves. And as they do that, I'm sort of mapping the way that they move internally with their mind, with their emotions, and we're co-regulating and create, I'm creating openings for awareness. So it's a deep embodied awareness that happens. And ultimately, through a gestalt-oriented approach, we do what we call experiments. So that could be a two-chair experiment with two constructs or an empty chair or a many number of other experiments, working with the ancestral lineage, working with alternate dimensions like spirit guides, because transpersonal really honors that the mystical and the transcendent is healthy and normal. So in transpersonal counseling, we're not pathologizing that. So it can look, it's very different from traditional therapy.
SPEAKER_01Okay. I like that. You mentioned at the start that like you didn't love how therapy was really going. Yeah, not at all.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm still really invested in having therapy be more of a sacred offering. You know, like a really deeply, deeply sacred offering where we honor our clients' innate spirituality as the catalyst for their healing. So we're honoring their sovereignty and not imposing our own idea or agenda of how they should be onto them.
SPEAKER_01Now, this is kind of off topic, but I'm curious how you discovered transpersonal.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, so it's kind of funny. When I when I was getting ready to go to college, the only thing that interested me was psychology and English. And so I studied psychology and English. I majored and minored. And I was very involved in the psychology department in many ways, like through research and being a teacher's assistant. And it was like the first time that I actually loved school. And I didn't know that you needed a graduate degree to be a therapist. Like I thought I was like on my way. Nobody had told me. And this was, you know, a long time ago. The internet was just becoming a thing back then. Like we were just starting to email people. We didn't have all of these resources that we have now. And I was teaching yoga at the time. And I had like a kundalini rising, so a big awakening right at the end of my undergraduate work. And I sort of went on this like walkabout where I sold all of my things and kind of traveled a little bit trying to discover who who I am now and what I really want to do. And I started writing my first book at the time. And when I submitted my book proposal to actually a really well-known publishing house, they were so sweet to me. They looked at me and said, Harmony, are you going to go to graduate school? And I said, I mean, I don't know. I was just trying to write this book. And the editor, the publisher said, I think you should go to graduate school and then come back to this. And I was such like a, you know, a doughy-eyed 20-something year old at the time. And um, so I did. And I started looking for schools that had a spiritual nature to it that was fundamentally important to me, and also a social justice ideology embedded because I wanted a um, for me, a big part of transpersonal counseling is decolonizing what we think about mental health, mental illness. It's there's we've been sort of imbalanced for too long. And I found a school that fit that. It was a really amazing school in Seattle, a private university called Antioch University. And while I was there, I was actually creating my own curriculum because I was still sort of fringe, like who I who I was as a person still didn't quite fit in even to this school. And I actually found a book written by a teacher at Naropa University, where I teach now. And that was the first time I had heard the word transpersonal was in reading this book. And also I always knew that our body was a really essential part of our transformation. And that was mostly through breath work, but also through yoga and meditation. And um, and so I when I left graduate school, I still did not know how to do this. I and that really bothered me. Like I knew I had the wisdom, I knew I had the capacity, but there wasn't anybody who had really taught me the how. And so I just decided to figure it out on my own. And so every time I sat with somebody, it was sort of this discovery. I started telling my personality that she wasn't allowed in the room with me, that they're the qualified to guide deep transformation, that I'd be back for her. And that actually really helped me because my personality just wants people to like me. And I could see that I was actually interrupting deep work by trying to get people to like me. And um, and ultimately I've actually now published a textbook that we use at at Naropa called The Awakened Therapist. So I figured out how and now I know how to teach it. So it's been quite a journey.
SPEAKER_01Wow, that's amazing. Congratulations. Thank you. A textbook on top of it. Wow, that's impressive.
Individual Vs Group Breathwork Fit
SPEAKER_00Thank you. I was a little surprised to myself, Amanda. I was like, I didn't know because I've I've published four books and working on my fifth right now. And by the time the Awakened Therapist came out, I was like, I had no idea. Like, I'm the person who almost didn't graduate high school. I hated school. So to be where I'm at now, and I love teaching and I love school, and you know, it's it's interesting.
SPEAKER_01Wow, that's amazing. That's so amazing. I'd love to transition back a chat. I'm I'm curious who you would recommend breath work for.
SPEAKER_00Almost everybody. Um, you know, I think it's interesting. Breath work individually is so different from breath work in a group. So breath work individually, I would recommend to almost everybody. Like when you have that one-on-one attention where somebody is really tracking you, versus being in a group where you could end up breathing for everybody else who doesn't quite know how to breathe, which has happened to me once or twice when it's in a group. But, you know, for those for people who this is who I don't recommend it for, is for people who have a really fragmented sense of identity, there needs to be more of an inner ground, I think, before really letting go. There's a beautiful quote from Ram Das that says, we have to become somebody before we come become nobody. And so I think it's really important to have a sense of self before we begin the process of letting go of that.
SPEAKER_01I like that quote. Have to become somebody where we can be nobody. Wow. Is is there that that makes a lot of sense. No, you mentioned individual versus group, breath. I I'm curious on on your thoughts on like the benefits of each, or even the downsides.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. So um in individual sessions, there's really only two nervous systems present, right? The person breathing and the person sitting. And so the coherence of the container is more, it's just clearer. And the co-regulation that happens is more intentional because there's really somebody there holding that attuned witness just for you. And many of us didn't get that growing up. And so that is, you know, reparative and important and so valuable. Um, and when we're in a group, there can be a lot of discord because people are on different sort of parts of their experience at different times. Ultimately, what typically happens is we arrive at coherence eventually together and is so beautiful and magical, and then we all feel so connected and in love. That lovely. But I think that there's a huge benefit for having individual sessions. And in the lineage that I have studied breathwork, they recommend 10 individual before you do a group.
SPEAKER_01That makes sense. You know, that I I love how you mentioned there's only two Nova systems. Yeah.
Life Urge Death Urge Closing
SPEAKER_00Yeah. And you know, and I don't know about you, but I I breathe on my own now. So I don't have somebody holding space for me anymore. I mean, every once in a while, I'll just call a friend and ask like a friend who's a breath worker and ask them to. Um, but now I love breathing on my own, but that takes like a lot of time and practice and study to be able to do that.
SPEAKER_01It definitely does. I do both, but I agree. It definitely takes it takes practice for that.
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SPEAKER_01Well, thank you so much, hominy. I really enjoyed this. Thank you. This has been so fun. Yeah, it really has. And no pressure, but anything else you want to share with the listeners before we close out.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Yeah, I do. I I want to share that that your breath is your life urge and it's an expression of your vitality. And when we start breathing, we really touch into and confront anything that isn't that. And sometimes that's scary, you know, and sometimes we can get hooked into everything that isn't that, which we call the death urge in the lineage that I study in. And that's okay, is really what I want to say. It's like that's all part of our humanity, that we have both a life urge and a death urge. And it takes a lot of courage to be fully alive here on this planet, especially given the state of the world. Takes a tremendous amount of courage, and it's a hundred percent worth it.
SPEAKER_01I completely agree. Well, thank you so much, Harmony. I really appreciate it.
SPEAKER_00Thank you so much, Amanda.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. And I will link your website in the show notes, but are you active on any social media if anybody wants to connect?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I'm active on Instagram, Awakened Therapist, Awakened Dot Therapist. And I have a lot of free courses on my website too.
SPEAKER_01Awesome. I will link that in the show notes. And thank you guys so much for tuning in to another episode of Breathwork Magic. Thank you for tuning in to Breathwork Magic. I hope today's episode inspires you to connect more deeply with your breath and embrace the transformation it can bring. Remember, as long as you have your breath, you have options. You're not stuck. You can make a change, you can make a shift. Each inhale is a new beginning. And every exhale is a chance to let go of what no longer serves you. If you're craving a reset, I'd love to invite you to Mindful Mindset Mondays, now held on the last Monday of every month. It's a virtual pay what you can breath work session designed to help you recharge and realign. You'll find all the info in the show notes. And if you're ready to go even deeper, you can always schedule a one-on-one breath work session with me. This is your space to work through what's coming up and move energy in a more personalized way. As always, thank you so much for listening. If you loved this episode, it would mean the world if you shared it with a friend or left it with you. Your support helps more people discover the magic of breath work and the shift it can bring. Until next time, keep breathing, keep shifting, and keep embracing the magic with inside of you. I'm proud of you. I'm rooting for you. And you've got this.
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